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  Quote marvinlzinn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: The absolutely most lying commercials
    Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 3:05pm
Anything announced by our federal government officials is what I am least likely to believe or accept.  Angry

For example, today I heard the announcement about how important it was to get the flu vaccination.

When I learned the danger of all vaccinations, since they kill more than they ever save, I stopped it completely. When I got flu vaccination every year, I also got flu and colds two or three times each year. But in the last 30 years with NO vaccinations I had flu and cold only twice (one last week), not nearly as severe, and they last three to five days.

It is done ONLY for more money, no matter who dies.


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  Quote PrinceJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 7:21pm
Usually they lie when they are trying to get into office, no after. 
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  Quote Synesthesia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 7:25pm
I don't know if vaccines kill more than they save, or cause autism or any of that.

Also I need a flu shot. If I get the flu I'll be sick for months with coughing. I've gotten a flu shot just about every year for the last few years but this one and I haven't gotten the flu at all, except maybe for some aches.
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  Quote specialkt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 7:28pm
some people need to take the risk of a vaccine over getting the flu such as those with little to no immunitys.

in the end, the media can hype it up as much as they want but i think people will decide for themselves if they want it regardless.

ive opted out because i happen to hardly ever get sick and really dont have a need for it.
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  Quote regulus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 8:09pm
I've decided to string a Hammock between two Coconut Palms and have myself a good night's sleep. I heard you have a better chance of getting bonked on the noggin by a coconut than you have of being done in by the Flu!
 
 
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  Quote Hootman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 8:14pm
To each their own, but to think you get the flu from a shot is medieval.  Watch out for the next solar eclipse.
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  Quote HollyRock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 8:16pm
I worry about anyone who's cavalier about this.  Flu kills people every year.  H1N1 has already been killing people, faster than "regular" flu.

I don't think anyone's getting rich off this.

Also - how can you claim that vaccinations kill more people than they save? 
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  Quote HollyRock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 8:18pm
BTW, anyone else know someone who's died from the flu?  I did - five year old boy, this summer.  It sucked.
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  Quote Synesthesia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 9:24pm
Yeah, I'm kind of afraid to get a severe flu.
I'll cough my lungs out
Plus people are nasty!
I'm working at Macy's and I see people sneezing on their hands AND TOUCHING THE CLOTHES ALL OVER!!!! AUGH! I CAN'T STAND IT!
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  Quote pcgh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2009 at 10:46pm
Back to the original intent (I presume) of the title, how about any commercial by those "free" credit reporting companies. e.g. Free Credit Report.com, and Free Score.com (the one currently being hawked by Ben Stein).
 
The very name of these companies implies their service is free, but in reality, there is a monthly service charge for using them. These companies are offering more frequent checkups, real-time alerts, etc, which all come at a price. Seems like blatant false advertising if you ask me.
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  Quote Call Now Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2009 at 12:33am
I've gotten flu shots every year for the last 15 years, and three pneumonia vaccines.  I have not had the flu once.  Why does everyone seem to think that America has become an evil place filled with government agencies trying to kill us all.  From whence does this fear and paranoia arise?  I don't get it...
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  Quote Synesthesia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2009 at 1:10am
Me neither. Along with anti-intellectualism. 
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  Quote marvinlzinn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2009 at 3:42am
It has been proven many years, but only the lies are published. Most of it is caused by the mercury in each one proven dangerous over 40 years ago.

If you just got statistics it would prove easily that anything the vaccination is made for will diminish before the vaccine begins. They ignore this and count only later when it would have been even less without the vaccine. There are books about this, but I don't remember the titles and it has been too many years ago.

But most of this I know from my own experience.  Everyone around me that had the shot always gets much worse than I do, as I did also when I took them.
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  Quote MrTim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2009 at 4:00am
Some people have an allergic reaction to eggs (which some vaccines are cultivated in),  so in some cases, the cure can be more dangerous than the disease....
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  Quote PaWolf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2009 at 5:29am

This year it is TWO flu shots, a few weeks apart...if it will be possible. Every stinkin' place around here has a waiting list, some lists are actually closed. I always get flu shots, while MissyDWolf generally does (she'll bring home the flu for all to share, but *she* will not ever get sick). 

I've heard what MrT points out, in regard to 'eggcelent' reactions - and about the mercury matter. I believe the nasal-inoculation is actually produced differently, but one must wait on a longer list for it.
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  Quote FaithSF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2009 at 6:23am
I get the flu shot every year.  I learned my lesson:  if I don't get one, I get the flu.  Don't want a flu shot?  Don't get one.  But to claim it's a conspiracy by the government is ridiculous.  And advising other people not to get one is irresponsible.  I agree with Call Now:  Why does everyone suspect the government of insidious behavior? 

I am diabetic--and diabetics and people with compromised immune systems are always advised to get flu and pneumonia vaccines. 
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  Quote Synesthesia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2009 at 11:40am
mercury?
They use a trace amount of the sort of mercury that ecretes itself out of the body pretty fast.
Plus AUTISM AND MERCURY POISONING ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE SAME.
Plus they removed thimerasol out of vaccines (except for  the flu vaccine) years ago. Autism rates are still rising according to various statistics.

I'm sorry, but I really have problems believing there is a government conspiracy to give kids autism, especially since Wakefield's studies were not even that accurate as he didn't have a proper control group, and other studies have proven him wrong.
Plus the fellow charges about $30,000 to "treat" autism at his center. Some of these so-called treatments are a bit dangerous like chelation which doesn't work on mercury in the brain in the first place if autism were caused by that but it is NOT.

Originally posted by marvinlzinn

It has been proven many years, but only the lies are published. Most of it is caused by the mercury in each one proven dangerous over 40 years ago.

If you just got statistics it would prove easily that anything the vaccination is made for will diminish before the vaccine begins. They ignore this and count only later when it would have been even less without the vaccine. There are books about this, but I don't remember the titles and it has been too many years ago.

But most of this I know from my own experience.  Everyone around me that had the shot always gets much worse than I do, as I did also when I took them.
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  Quote BDrums1971 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2009 at 4:39am
Originally posted by FaithSF

  Why does everyone suspect the government of insidious behavior? 



While I am not sure about the vaccines, it is foolhardy NOT to question ANY government. Throughout history, (most) people in power tend to want to keep it (and will go to extreme lengths to do so), and get even more. Everyone knows Washington is a power mad town, and we, as citizens really must.... in fact, the founding fathers specifically demanded that.... we must always keep an eye on OUR government.

Anyone who seems to blindly trust the people in Washington, and think they only have our interests at heart, is , well....blind!!! Not every politician is evil, but most seem to be power hungry, and will bend their morals to get more power (or keep what they have). That's actually just human nature. Nothing new....it's been going on for thousands of years, and still is!
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  Quote BDrums1971 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2009 at 4:41am
By the way, I had also heard that the mercury in vaccines is dangerous and does kill some people, and apparently cause autism in others.

As far as making money off vaccines, SOMEBODY is making money off them!! Trust me, the pharmaceutical companies aren't giving them out for free!!! They're getting paid.
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  Quote marvinlzinn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2009 at 5:20am
Vaccine is a small part of it.

Vote for me as president. My objective is to immediately cut Federal government in half, then repeat this every year I am there. The more they try to fix, the worse they get. STOP IT NOW!
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  Quote marvinlzinn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2009 at 5:22am
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1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

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  Quote Synesthesia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2009 at 11:58am
Vaccines do not cause autism.
Neither does mercury.
Mercury poisoning and autism are entirely different.
Sheesh.

And it's not as if the folks who claim to be able to "cure" autism aren't making money. These folks are pumping dangerous chemicals into kids, using nicotine patches and things like that , which to me is worse than vaccines because there's no proof those "treatments" work and they are tricking desperate people out of thousands possibly millions of dollars.
Not to mention getting in the way of understanding autism.
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  Quote Grant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2009 at 3:26pm
At this point, it's just barely hyperbole to say that I'd rather get it than hear about it constantly. The same with plane crashes and murders and so on - almost better to be the victim of the thing itself than the victim of endless conversations and documentaries about it!
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  Quote Synesthesia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2009 at 1:27am
I don't know .I don't want swine flu.
I have asthma. I'd rather just take the vaccine if it's safe, and I suspect I have asperger's anyway.
As long as I don't get guillian barr? is that what it's called? Nothing is totally 100% fail proof, but still. Diseases are much worse.
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  Quote flychinook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2009 at 9:42pm
Oh noes, it's swine flu! Everybody over-use your hand sanitizer, so that germs and viruses become stronger and more immune to them!

Kids got flu shot, GF got flu shot, I got nothing.
Three weeks later, Kids got sick, then wife got sick, and I got a moderate headache until I took some asprin.
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