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    Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 5:20pm
This whole suicide thing is shocking to me ...
Kate Spade ...
Anthony Bourdain...
We need to get a handle on our loved ones . Speaking as a family member of losing a brother to suicide . it just takes a word , a phone call , a hug ... Talk to your loved ones ..son's and daughters , sisters and brothers ... Be there for them . sorry off topic ..
It grinds my gears
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It is sad and difficult to understand especially when people like these most recent two seemingly have everything to live for.

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C'mon, man!
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Yes , Kate Spade had a multi million dollar purse line and was opening a new label product that was gonna be big too .......?
Anthony Bourdain ? Paid to eat , travel the globe , wrote books , smoked weed ..had a beautiful daughter with Ottavia Busia . dating Asia Argento ...had it all ....?
So sad . my step brother T had a plumbing business , huge house , 4 kids , money ...killed himself over the neighbors daughter wouldn't return his affections ? He was fixated on her ? A teen girl , he was about 34 ? ...couldn't have her and he jumped off a bridge into traffic on the X-way near here ??
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I've have not attempted but have contemplated suicide when I was younger when I didn't have control of my illness. Now? Never! Hardly ever I'm an optimist now. I have too much to live for

They said on the news that suicide happens at the intersection of three things 1. I am alone 2. I am a burden 3. I am not afraid to die. That intersection makes suicide likely.

It's still unbelievable though
One good thing about TV-you could always turn it off
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I'd never heard of Spade until her suicide.  But I knew Bourdain through his promos on CNN.  He always had music I liked accompanying those promos.  I never tuned into his show because I'm simply not that interested in what people around the world eat.
 
Val Kilmer didn't mince words when he berated Bourdain for having committed suicide.
 
Anthony Bourdain's apparent suicide was 'selfish,' says Val Kilmer in slamming Facebook post
 
 
 
 
 
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I thought Spade's suicide was selfish too.

She had a 13 y/o daughter who no longer has her mother.

I think in most cases, suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit.

Certainly people with families who depend on them.
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People who contemplate then commit the act have no control over what they are doing or who they hurt. I just lost my brother 2days ago.suicide may be the cause until i see the me report. I hold nobody in judgement.
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

I thought Spade's suicide was selfish too.

She had a 13 y/o daughter who no longer has her mother.

I think in most cases, suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit.

Certainly people with families who depend on them.


Not really selfish. I remember someone saying he thought he was a burden, holding his family back from living the lives they wanted. He attempted suicide by hanging so that they no longer had to worry about him anymore. The tree rope broke, saving his life. He said he was so incredibly grateful the suicide failed as he realized the unspeakable grief his family would have endured had they seen his dead body on that tree.
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Originally posted by msmadz msmadz wrote:

People who contemplate then commit the act have no control over what they are doing or who they hurt. I just lost my brother 2days ago.suicide may be the cause until i see the me report. I hold nobody in judgement.


I'm so sorry for your loss, Madz.
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Originally posted by msmadz msmadz wrote:

People who contemplate then commit the act have no control over what they are doing or who they hurt. I just lost my brother 2days ago.suicide may be the cause until i see the me report. I hold nobody in judgement.
Very sad to hear this, msmadz.  I'm sorry for the loss you've suffered and hope you and your family find answers and peace.
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Sorry to hear this Msmadz.
 
I've thought about suicide before, how life is all so futile, how it's all so pointless, etc.  But then I think about how I'd never see my critters again, never eat another bowl of spaghetti, never again hear the songs I like, etc.  It's all those things that make life worth living...to me, anyway.
 
 
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Originally posted by msmadz msmadz wrote:

People who contemplate then commit the act have no control over what they are doing or who they hurt. I just lost my brother 2days ago.suicide may be the cause until i see the me report. I hold nobody in judgement.


Deepest condolences, maddie.
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Thank you everyone. His cause of death was hypertension cardiovascular disease which could have caused a stroke or heart attack. Oh and chronic alcohol abuse.
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I'm very sorry, Maddy. This hits close to home.
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...the ads take aim and lay their claim to the heart and the soul of the spender
Jackson Browne - The Pretender

C'mon, man!
Joe Biden - 46th President of the United States
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Originally posted by msmadz msmadz wrote:

Thank you everyone. His cause of death was hypertension cardiovascular disease which could have caused a stroke or heart attack. Oh and chronic alcohol abuse.


I'm so sorry for your loss, msmadz Cry
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Suicide is a decision made by the desperate. I contemplated it myself a few years ago, but someone close to me directed me to a reliable therapist. My troubles began from the multiple head injuries I've suffered through my life. Apparently I have CPTSD, which has caused me to be eventually diagnosed with early stage dementia.
The troubles the famous people faced mentioned in this thread, and their decision to chuck it all in proves that those famous people are no different than anyone else. Dealing with difficult situations is the hardest task we all must face, that's why I feel very bad about those who've made that terrible decision.
I won't pass judgement on those who made that decision, they are facing that judgement themselves through the grace of God.
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