Fast & Furious star Paul Walker dies in car crash |
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bwestfall
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Of course the "age" thing always plays into how much attention a celebrity/sport/public figure death gets. Whether it is fascination, loss of what they may do in the future, wasted talent, good looks, etc. the younger they die the worse it seems.
I've always wondered at what age the fascination starts to lessen kicks in. Like Paul Walker at 40, still gets a large amount, while even older, more talented get just a little. When James Gandolfini died at 51, I didn't see why it was such a big deal but many (I'm sure many thought he was a great actor)more than I would have suspected just went crazy over it. I know other factors account for some of it, but I do think at some age, 60, 65, 70, the "youth" factor kicks in and people don't care as much. |
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Thor
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^ And at a certain age---maybe 75 and up---when a celebrity dies, many of us just assume he or she was already dead.
At this pont, so many people I grew up watching or listening to have died, that sometimes, I don't remember who's dead and who isn't.
Another thing. If they're not someone in my frame of reference---that is, if I didn't "grow up" with them or have had little exposure to them, I find myself caring less. Like this Paul Walker guy. Yeah, it's sad that he died so young, but I don't really feel anything about it. It's not as if a little part of me died when he died, as it might be when someone like Lou Reed dies.
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Yeah, lots of sh*tty movies(and books) are considered classics, that's nothing new. Of course, the F&F series won't be considered classics, but they do one thing right that none of Dean's work ever did-entertain me. And not sure your logic...because no big time chart topping rock band has written a hit song about Orson Welles it means nobody will remember him either? How many hit songs have been written about Humphrey Bogart? Or for that matter, Abbott and Costello(or The Marx Brothers), does nobody else remember them since nobody wrote a hit song about them?
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"I see the sadness in their eyes
Melancholy in their cries Devoid of all the passion The human spirit cannot die" |
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Thor
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Here's one. I dunno if it can be called a hit, but it was pretty popular in my college dorm.
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Awwww shucks. I've gone & hurt your feelings, so now you're lashing out in anger & retaliation. Me sowwy...
Yes, I'm sure they've entertained many members of your generation x or y or z. Whatever...
Beside the point deflection & strawman argument. NOT having a hit song written about oneself, does not necessarily mean one is not a cultural icon, but HAVING one written about oneself, certainly does mean one is. Point being, James Dean HAD a hit song written about him, which merely serves to underscore his status as a cultural icon based on the movies he made (which BTW are not "sh*tty"), but Paul Walker, though I'm sure he was a good & decent person, will NEVER have a hit song written about him, because unlike Dean, Walker was a minor star who, like his & most of the other forgettable movies being made nowadays, will be completely forgotten about. No offense intended to the man or his fans, but it is what it is. |
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...the ads take aim and lay their claim to the heart and the soul of the spender
Jackson Browne - The Pretender C'mon, man! Joe Biden - 46th President of the United States |
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LOL that picture is hilarious! I dislike Fast & Furious because they manage to total classic muscle cars while the tuner cars are untouched. |
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I'm surprised you overlooked this one, you being a big Blondie fan & all... "Susie And Jeffrey" Even though Jeff was worried They weren't in a hurry They planned a lovely honeymoon Sue had a brand new Chevy Conservative, in good taste Only 30 payments due They had outstanding tickets They had no car insurance But they had lots of things to do They were getting organised They had their plans all finalised The date was set for Saturday Susie and Jeffrey, they're gonna get married They're going for a blood test What if I don't pass my blood test? What about our marriage licence? What if I can't be deprogrammed? Don't act like it's your last chance We could have fun at the Spahn Ranch. It's not like Gordon Avenue Susie and Jeffrey, they're gonna get married They're going for a blood test Jeffrey said "Let's wait" Sue took her foot off of the brake He drove into a wall Don't get excited, now don't shout! I'll scratch your eyes out Now we can't have our honeymoon!" Don't touch she's my fiance! Say, but I like the way you play An autograph from Orson Welles I'm a fan, here's my record It's one we can't get programmed We want to give to all of you They had a little argument Sue took her foot off of the brake He drove the car into a wall They had a little argument Sue took her foot off of the brake He drove the car into a wall They had a disagreement Sue took her foot off of the brake He drove the car into a wall |
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Jackson Browne - The Pretender C'mon, man! Joe Biden - 46th President of the United States |
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I've always gotten a chuckle out of it myself!!! |
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And of course I love the Spahn Ranch reference, whatever the hell it's supposed to mean. Same with the Orson Welles reference. What the...? |
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There is a very deep, dark & cryptic meaning to the use of those references in that song.... they rhymed. |
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Maybe they both reeeeeaaaaallllly hated Blondie & were trying to prevent them from putting out another album.... |
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So, did the couple die, or did they live to get married & just WISH they'd died?
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Thor
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Nope. Nothin' other than mentions of the song. No Facebook or anything. They must've died. RIP, Suzy and Jeffery. |
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Just saw a commercial for Fast & Furious 6 the announcer said something about all proceeds will be donated to Paul Walkers fund for first responders.
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Walker failed - no 'MudMonkey Merit Badge' for him, no - more something like 'Lice(Rice?)Krispies Merit Badge'.
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Or maybe it just means a popular band was a fan of the dude. And I've seen Dean's work-it's still sh*tty. Tons of classic movies far better than anything he ever did.
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I've seen some follow up articles. After viewing enhanced video of the car on fire, it appears the passenger was conscious but trapped. It said he was "flailing" his arms.
The article also said toxicology reports would take 6 to 8 weeks.
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I'd rather not have known that. |
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Seriously.
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...the ads take aim and lay their claim to the heart and the soul of the spender
Jackson Browne - The Pretender C'mon, man! Joe Biden - 46th President of the United States |
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aka ron
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Sorry guys, Sometimes life's not pretty. Or death.
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Same here. It makes it all the more sad. |
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bwestfall
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Today on CNN newsroom they ran the Mandela story then immediately went into the Walker story--not saying anything really but it did seem strange.
What little I saw of Walker story was bizarre, surreal, and sorry (because people seem to get too wrapped up emotionally in the death of someone they've never known). People at the crash sight were several people deep for several blocks on both sides. There were pile after pile of "junk" people had brought to honor Paul Walker. Maybe the most odd was that some people brought a full size Christmas tree, set it up and decorated it. The funniest part was when the reporter said that each person there was mourning for Walker in their own personal way--well I don't think mourning someone in front of thousands of other people and 100s of news outlets is very private--couldn't they have mourned privately at home? When I was in high school Elvis dies. My cousin cried and was so upset, you'd have thought he was an immediate family member. Me and my sister told her to grow up and get a life. |
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