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Amy414
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ItsAllTME
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^ Blargh, AdNauseous... that kid should only be going to 1 place: a 9' x 9' cell with 3 hots & a cot.
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Ad nauseous
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I wonder if that rich kid who killed 4 people by driving drunk is going there.
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One good thing about TV-you could always turn it off
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PaWolf
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"Merry XMAS from 'Passages Malibu'!"
They could at least send that message, but noooooooo...instead, they are slaughtering cable bandwidth with their same ol'silliness.
Pax Prentiss isn't an addict anymore, or so he says - but he can't afford any new commercials.
He will be feeling better as soon as his
He may make money.
We may get another commercial.
Or he may go out of business by XMAS from boring us to death with the same ol'message.
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PaWolf
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If you have to ask, you can't afford this place.
It isn't for 'Momma's Every Day Standard Crack Kitten', no - this is a business. These folks know the poor can't afford to go to heaven, so this place isn't meant for those with questions. You're bound more for someplace like this:
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MrFlavor
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How are you supposed to afford this place after you've spent all your money on blow? Maybe this is where you send your kids when they get busted for smoking pot at private school, or where you go right after the press conference - the one where your wife is somewhere off to the side, just barely trying to conceal her rage at what a disappointing pervert you are despite being an elected official in a position of authority, yet who uses this authority to bone as many bottom tier employees as you can intimidate while maintaining a box-a-day Chablis habit. Sort of a fancy hotel you can hide out at while the heat dies down.
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Kdcap
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HATE HATE HATE this commercial! There should be a law against airing this BS. Have you seen the web site for Passages Malibu??
http://www.passagesmalibu.com/ EVERYONE on the website look like models! I have known a lot of addicts and NONE of them look like that! Its a spa for the rich and most addicts I know are NOT rich cause they spent all their money on drugs! "I was an addict for 10 years and now I'm not." What a crock! If this facility held the cure for all drug rehabilitation then everyone would go and drug addiction would be a thing of the past. I watched so many people suffer and fight their addictions for years before they died and this commercial is a slap in the face. It's nice to think though that a lavish lifestyle change such as the one that is offered here could be the answer but who could afford it even if they wanted to try it? I really wish I didn't have to see this commercial every 10 minutes just to watch a show I enjoy. |
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EdgarFriendly
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1. Good for you 2. Don't feel sorry for me for not 'experiencing the other side'. I feel sorry for people who don't experience this little thing called 'self control' |
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Chubs
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LMAO. Just read a Pax Prentiss quote. "...a holistic approach is a way to cure that dependency by getting at the underlying causes."
In other words, THIS IS NOT A 12 STEP PROGRAM. WE ARE HOWEVER GOING TO CALL IT A DEPENDENCY RATHER THAN A DISEASE AND DO STEPS 4,5,6,7,8, AND 10. Holistic also implies more than just cognitive restructuring and, while not Steps 1,2,3,11,12 specifically, the holistic approach popularized by the 12 step programs (but invented well before even AA). What was I saying about repackaging old concepts? PS NA literature talks about not knowing if addiction technically is a disease but treating it as such as an effective means to recovery; even going so far, at times, to refer to the concept as dis-ease. |
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Darthhillbilly
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Actually, I quit cold turkey after being a 12-pack+ a day drinker for years, and just celebrated 15 years sobriety in January. Cold turkey isn't "fatal", I'm proof. Granted, I "weened" myself by only drinking two beers the last day I drank, but I'm still alive. My beef with this commercial is how it's worded: "This is not a 12 step program.. I should know, blah blah" OK, how does your recovery after ten years of addiction prove in any way that this isn't a 12 step program? Maybe edit in the part where you tried 12 step programs so you know the difference between those and Passages? That might help.
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Papa Lazarou
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I know a few Cognitive-Behaviourals who would like to slap you for saying that. It's more often about learning the behaviours than some random genetic "f**k you" from mommy and daddy. Fun fact is that look at almost all addicts, and you can find a cognitive issue behind it a lot easier than a genetic link. Plenty of addicts who come from long lines of non-addicts as well. Granted, I wouldn't take one side over the other entirely...just that as much as people want to call it a disease, there is a lot to say that it's nurture, not nature. |
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BANANA!! BANANA!!! BANANA!! Banana! |
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Chubs
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That's EXACTLY what the fook I'm talking about. My bullsh*t alarm just blares when I watch this dude. Game recognize game, crime recognize crime, and BS recognize BS. As a former user, criminal, bullsh*tter, and professional poker player (no bullsh*t, pun intended) I'd go all-in on this dude not having the sobriety he claims. Too bad there's not a showdown in real life. I'd snap-call his bluff and make him show. |
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Chubs
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BTW, being an addict is not a stigma for me. I wear it like a badge of honor. I walked through hell and came out alive on the other end. Being in active addiction sucks and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Being recovered (or recovering if you prefer) is awesome and at the same time I wouldn't wish active addiction on anyone, I almost feel sorry for normal people who don't get to experience the otherside. I wouldn't trade being an addict for anything. I guess it's like climbing a treacherous mountain and reaching the summit - You may never want to make the climb and face those trials again, but wouldn't trade the reward for all the riches in the world.
Proud to be an addict Grateful to be alive Free to live as I choose |
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Chubs
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The guy in the commercial never said he had been clean 10 years. He said he was an addict for ten years. I personally don't give a sh*t about the once an addict always an addict vs cured debate. I'm an addict. Clean 16 years and still consider myself an addict. For the DB who said those who count years and days are the ones still obsessed with drugs (I think the same guy who thought dude was clean 10 years) pull your head out. I've been clean 5,970 days. I'm not obsessed with drugs in the least. I do get obsessed and/or passionate about quite a few things, drugs is not among them. I do celebrate being free of them every day. Those who count days may be obsessed but more likely with recovery than using.
This isn't the first commercial that kid has done. I remember seeing the first one and laughing my ass off because I thought "That dude's a using addict" before he opened his mouth or identified himself as the son of the founders. When he did open his mouth, said he was an addict and claimed to be clean I laughed even harder. Addicts can spot addict bullsh*t a mile away. I'm just saying don't be surprised if you one day find out dude wasn't clean (or was "legally" medicated when making the commercials). Am I not the only one who got the creepy used car salesman vibe when dude pulls his disingenuous smile and lies about being sober? My god I'd love to play poker with homeboy. Not just because he is filthy rich, but because he displays classic poker tells when claiming to be clean. I'm not even saying that Passages doesn't work. Most programs are the same concepts with different names. (Character defects and reservations become thinking errors and triggers. Or a reservation becomes "permission to act out" in a "cognitive" cycle chart.) I'm just saying that dude is full of sh*t. Mommy and daddy own passages and make a lot of money from it. Of course dude is going to say he is clean. I'm sure passages (and everyone else who re-words 12 Step concepts, repackages them, sells them, and makes money from them) have helped a lot of people. Hell, even AA and NA are a repackaging of an older program's concepts. I think passages has probably helped quite a few people. I just don't think dude is one of them. (Unless we are talking about helping his bank account.) |
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britastar
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This is why I never "quit" anything.... Rehab is for quitters. lol
Couldn't agree more with CC....."very rich users of alcohol and narcotics".... Musicman...way too funny.....
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RoastGecko
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I'd like to ask this guy the same thing Bob Saget asks Chapelle here haha
Seriously though, I'd like to hear how this guy struggled with addiction, and how he thinks he's better than the audience he and his business talk down to. Ever sucked dick for coke buddy? |
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It really pisses me off that they prey on addicts. How f*cking low of a human being do you have to be to sell some sh*t like this?
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PaWolf
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Actually, once an addict - even a recovered addict, one should never lie to themself.
They are genetically-indisposed to the lifestyle.
They NEVER become 'ex-addicts', no matter what anyone tells them - they just become addicts, strong within themselves. In other words, it is what it is, so live with the stigma and just become more - who cares about titles when what matters is the legacy.
I'm a firm believer that anyone who tells you they are an 'ex-addict' - no longer an addict - is the first person you should not trust. They are the type who lied to their mothers.
To quote the famous philosopher, Popeye, "I yam what I yam!"
To trust Chris or Pax Prentiss is...well...kinda like donating your life to Jim Jones.
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zerocool
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I'm convinced Pax Prentiss is still an addict because he just has that vibe going on, ya know?
Most are addicts for life, but I personally know a couple of people who have quit for good. They've gone from nothing to lose to proper jobs, nice homes, families, etc. They're both in their late 20s, though. I guess it's easier to be optimistic about the rest of your life when you've still got most of it left. If you're an old addict, you're probably f*cked. You're probably also f*cked if you have the money to buy as much as you want (target audience of this commercial). |
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PaWolf
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I started this thread well over a year ago...and, to this day, we are all being subected to Pax Prentiss exclaim, "I was once an addict - now I'm NOT!".
I am SO sick of him looking into that 'mirror' (the camera lense), trying to convince himself and anyone who cares, that he wouldn't look for an 'escape hatch', should life deal him a nasty blow.
Also surprising is that Passages Malibu appears to have only made one commercial - thought they were in much better financial standings and could possibly make a few more.
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PaWolf
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One would think that if 'Passages Malibu' can pay to have their commercial broadcast again, they *might* have been smart enough to at least create a NEW commercial - but no...this one is back. Wonder if 'sonnyboy' suffered a relapse and they're scrambling for funds...
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PaWolf
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...very true - sad but true...I tried to quit having my occasional beer about 30 years ago - and got the same warning.
On the 'Light Side', that is why it is good to be Irish.
Part of our responsibility is to pass out spread-eagle and keep the earth from flying into space.
It's a 'Heritage Thing', doncha know...
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I just watched an episode of Intervention last night in which an alcoholic's young wife (also an alcoholic) had died a year earlier after attempting to go cold turkey off of alcohol. Within two days after stopping, she went into seizures and died.
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Thanks, Pa. You're absolutely right. The worst problem facing addicts/alcoholics is going home from rehab. As they say, "All your addictions will be doing push-ups at the front door." Everything's a trigger--a song, a picture, a beer commercial--the first major problem that yanks you down from that pink cloud will send you screaming to the liquor store unless you have major support. I don't have any statistics for failure after rehab, because so many of us lie about whether we're still using or not. I've been to AA meetings with people who were falling-down drunk. There are good AA and bad AA meetings. A good group will keep you sober. Unfortunately, the good group I attended at rehab is 470 miles away. My home town group is the variety that lets speakers go on and on about their tragedies. Hey, we've all been there...it's another trigger as far as I'm concerned.
Speaking of smoking (which is rampant at some facilities), did you ever manage to quit? I quit cold-turkey after 20 years. I attribute this to switching to organic cigarettes. It's the chemicals Big Tobacco adds that get you hooked more than the nicotine. One day I just put out the cigarette I was smoking and never picked up another one. No cravings ever again. Anyone who wants to quit, never mind Chantix or nicotine gum. Just go natural. It makes it really easy to stop. Too bad I can't do the same with liquor! You can't quit cold turkey when you're an alcoholic...it's fatal. |
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PaWolf
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'Passages', from my perspective, is a calculated amount of time a person has to dry out in a luxury environment. Good for them...probably gt them out of the DUI, drug charge, or whatever...screw a bunch of that - who needs to know how the 'rich and famous' get away with their mistakes? Not me.
The choice for change is up to the individual and therein lies the answer; too many rehab places attempt to 'fill the void' with religion - personally, I do not feel that is the answer, but one method that works for a percentage of individals (so, no - I'm not putting that method down totally). Myself? I think that when it all comes to 'that time', friends, support - intervention, if you will, works wonders - but even then, one must have that support group and they must have some idea of how to properly help (and THAT is a challenge, to say the least). The 'triggers' have to be addressed; new, desireable alternative decisions have to be available.
When I wanted to quit smoking, I chose getting up and heading for my bicycle, if even to ride to the end of the wilderness and back - that worked for me (I made up my own alternatives). Anyone can do that if they really WANT to (and that realization is the first step). If you don't want to, and well, some people just don't...then it isn't time - it just will not work. As bad as this may sound and as much as friends and family may disagree, one MUST be a 'realist' and understand it just isn't time.
Gotta sink lower - 'Rock Bottom' awaits.
Having said THAT, I must also say that there is no need - and I really wish people catch themselves before that point - it SUCKS, it HURTS - permanently. All the same, people indeed do find 'another life'. MissyD & Self know many, know the life...and, of course, I've never been accused of being an 'angel' (but, as Popeye said, "I yam what I yam"). Somehow, I've maintained a manageable level of control through this big ol' goofy life (then again, I'm Irish, so, I'm lucky and some silliness is required),
And, only the BEST of luck to you, going forward...all else is 'water under the bridge'; always look toward the 'bright side', no matter the situation - there ALWAYS is one...
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